This week’s topic was spurred by several questions from ACE educators during a science session in December 2009. Many were interested in what climate was like a really long time ago (back in the Age of the Dinosaurs) and in how we could ever possibly know this.
So, here we go: Really old climate and climate change and how we know about it
Let’s start with the big picture: a graph of CO2 and temperature over the last 600 million years

Grey line = CO2
Blue line = temperature
Time goes forward left to right (today is at far right)
Check out how today’s CO2 and temperature are some of the lowest values the Earth has seen in the past 600 million years. We are living in an Ice Age world – just during a brief respite from the cold for the last 10,000 years.
Why is this the case? Primarily because of where the continents are right now – lots of land located near the poles that provides a starting point for big ice sheets to grow. Then that albedo feedback kicks in and works to keep the ice there and the world cool.
(Albedo means how reflective a surface is. White snow and ice reflects sunlight, so they have a high albedo. More reflected sunlight equals less sunlight being absorbed by Earth, which in turn makes the Earth cooler and allows even more snow to stick around. This is called a positive feedback: more snow and ice -> sunlight reflected -> cooler -> more snow and ice.)
Looking back to dinosaur time (that’s the orange section – Triassic, Jurassic and Cretaceous), both CO2 and temperature were a lot higher than today. Temperatures were around 5-10ºC warmer than today – that’s about 9-18ºF higher and CO2 was between 1200-2000 ppm! (about 3-5 times today’s CO2 level of 389 ppm)
If you go even further back in time, 500-600 million years ago, CO2 was even higher – maybe even as high as 7000 ppm! (Although I did see other values for this time that were more like 2000-3000 ppm.)
One cool thing I learned is that the cause for the big drop in CO2 from those way high values was the evolution of big plants on land. These big plants sucked lots of CO2 out of the atmosphere through photosynthesis, as well as helping to break down soil and rock and increase weathering, which also sucks CO2 from the atmosphere. Pretty wild!
But then CO2 increased again during the dinosaurs’ time. The main reason for this is that the mid-ocean ridges were spreading and pushing up new rock at a much faster rate than today, which also brought up a lot of CO2 to the surface as well.
How can people ever know this stuff, if it happened SO long ago??
I have to say, it is pretty amazing that we have figured out how to look back in time and imagine what the world was like back then. But “imagine” or better yet, “estimate” is the key – it’s really hard to get precise numbers on what temperature or CO2 was hundreds of millions of years ago. (Maybe it was 7000 ppm…? Or maybe it was closer to 2000 ppm…)
So that’s something important to keep in mind – there’s a LOT of uncertainty in these estimates.
That being said, here’s how scientists come up with these numbers:
CO2
This is done with models that include the whole big carbon cycle and estimate how much carbon was in rocks, plants, ocean, soil and atmosphere and the fluxes between them. This is based on things like the position of the continents, what mountains were being built and eroded, how many plants were on land and then compared to today’s numbers. Lots of wiggle room here!
Temperature
General climate can be recreated by mapping out ancient deposits such as coal, palm trees, alligator fossils (All found in a warm and wet climate.) or desert sands (dry), or deposits from a glacier (cold). These plant and animals fossils and the type of rocks all give information on what the climate was like when they were formed. Here’s a cool website that gives maps of these deposits (as well as positions of the continents) all through geologic time.
More exact information on temperature can come from leaf fossils – particularly the ratio between leaves with smooth edges and those with “toothed” edges. It turns out that the ratio of leaves with smooth vs. toothed edges gives a really good estimation of temperaure. (This is called a proxy.) This can be matched with real temperatures today and then projected back to come up with temperatures in the past.
One final brain tease: Look back at the CO2 and temp through time graph and find where the ice core data fits in there… (Do this on your own and then read on.)
That data only covers the last 800,000 years, which is way less than a millimeter in size on this graph. So those ice age cycles we talk about don’t even show up on this scale!
Hope this is helpful for seeing the big picture of geologic time and how we fit into it.
End of report
…unless you’re a total dork and want to learn a bit more about how leaf edges tell temperature (I couldn’t help myself…)
Check out how well this ratio of smooth vs. teeth in modern leaves correlates with temperature! Isn’t that cool!?!?
(“entire margins” means smooth edges) Wolfe, 1979
It turns out that’s it’s not well understood exactly why leaf edges and temperature are so well-correlated. The best explanation I came across is that more teeth are better in colder climates because they allow for more photosynthesis and transpiration early in the growing season. Something about having more area along the margins for these reactions to take place… Interesting that there’s a whole science based on using this correlation to predict past temperatures, but no one’s really sure why it works so well.

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